Sunday, December 12, 2010

Why is XMRV in ME/CFS contamination and NOT in prostate cancer?

By: Xmrv Humanrightsnow:

Ask yourself this question. Why is XMRV finding in prostate cancer, not accused of being a contaminant? Why is this accusation ONLY levelled at people with CFS?

Ironically, one of the main reasons contamination cannot explain XMRV in 'CFS' is evidence of ANTIBODIES to MULV infection.

Mr Johnson erroneously states that others haven't replicated the WPI's findings. This is totally untrue. The FDA Alter/Lo group who fund MULV in 'CFS' stated ''we have confirmed'' the findings of the WPI.

Mr Johnson is also aware that the WPI have recently tested the FDA's MULV samples and found XMRV in them, once again showing the FDA MULV paper is the same finding at the WPI SCIENCE paper. This finding is discussed in length on his own forum. Note the FDA paper was embargoed, to be re-written to take any link to XMRV out, by order of direct influences from the CDC. That is a fact.

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Mr Johnson states ''Dr. Blanco first noted the usual on XMRV: that the problematic methodologies being used impair detection, contamination could be possible for some results''.

Mr Johnson states: ''We await Dr. Singh’s results in particular given the care she had given it… using a PCR technique that seems almost immune to contamination.''
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For some reason, Mr Johnson appears to have amnesia about this event, as of the others numeous threads that discount contamination and discuss the reasons why. From electron microscope photographs, to virus cultures, to antibodies, to passing CDC tests on contamination, to finding a NEW human pathogen, 'contamination' is impossible. The human body cannot produce antibodies to a contaminant.

Ask yourself this question. Why is XMRV finding in prostate cancer, not accused of being a contaminant? Why is this accusation ONLY levelled at people with CFS?

Ironically, one of the main reasons contamination cannot explain XMRV in 'CFS' is evidence of ANTIBODIES to MULV infection that Mr Johnson told his forum and made public that he himself has been shown to have MULV antibodies from VIPDX in the USA.

Yes you heard that correcly. Mr Johnson is XMRV+.

So no one is 'waiting' for anyone to 'confirm' the WPI's finding. The FDA has done that. Indeed the FDA showed 7% of the healthy blood donor supply is infected with MULV infection, this exceeds that of the first WPI study.

XMRV in 'CFS' has also been found in patients Europe in a european laboratory. (REDLABS) outside of the USA. Also note that the WPI' SCIENCE paper findings were replicated by the Cleveland Clinic and the NCI, not just the WPI. XMRV has also been found in the immune supressed in Germany and Japan. These people did not use the WPI or any American laboratory.

It is a shame Mr Johnson keeps making these 'errors' for over 14 months now when talking about the WPI, XMRV or Dr Mikovits who he once stated had been punished by the scientific community for speaking too loudly. A ludicrous suggestion.

Lastly what does this mean, in terms of amateur blogger/journalistic license?

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Mr Johnson states: ''Dr. Judy Mikovits Speaks – on XMRV, ME/CFS, MS, Lyme Disease, Cancer…….(is that all???). – The WPI has kind of been playing it safe it seems…but no''
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Is the WPI playing it 'dangerous' then by finding out that XMRV may be found in MULTIPLE neuro immune diseases? Revealing science and people's lives isn't DANGEROUS, it's called being concerned about others terrible welfare that we are left to rot and die from cancers, heart failure and self destruction through suicide.

Must be a mistake I am sure, and not deliberate....

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Some of us with ME/CFS connected the dots long ago when it comes to Cort Johnson. He was then, and still is, chipping away at WPI and Dr Mikovits every chance he gets. Whenever his lies and disinformation are pointed out, he changes them just a little and calls it good. He is obviously in it for money and who knows what else - fame? He certainly doesn't mind delaying progress, and thus harming millions of people with this disease. He and his cronies at CAA have added at least a year to the waiting and suffering of ME/CFS patients. He said a year ago he didn't think he had XMRV - reminiscent of Reeves at CDC saying they wouldn't find it, before even looking for it. So his statement now that he does test positive for it is not particularly credible. It may just be another in a long line of ploys to insinuate himself into the minds of those who really do have a retrovirus in their bodies.

He still has a headline up on his blog that accuses Dr. Mikovits of "spilling the beans" on the Lo/Alter paper. In fact, the paper had been known worldwide for weeks before she spoke of it; Alter's slides had been posted on the web. When this was pointed out to Johnson, who of course already knew this, he simply changed his earlier, nastier headline that had said she "broke the embargo" on the paper - part of his campaign to paint her as an unprofessional renegade unworthy of repect or funding. Most of his other attacks on Dr Mikovits and WPI have been subtler. They seem to be testing just where the line is, in what he can get away with in undermining their research efforts while still posing as pro-patient.

If he has actually tested positive, he can now do the ARV treatments that are working for those who have the money to buy the AZT, Viread and Isentress that have restored health to Dr Jamie Deckoff-Jones and her daughter Ali, Dr Michael Snyderman, and the Ms "X" mentioned in the blog Hope For FM and CFIDS. And by undermining valid research that the establishment claims it needs before the clinical trials can be done, he lengthens the time that he can continue to make money off his website, preying on those who don't have the support they need right now to try the treatments that are working for other XMRV+ patients.

If MuLVs are shown to be the cause of ME/CFS, (the successful treatment by ARV drugs certainly points to that probability) there will soon be no need for the likes of Cort Johnson and the CAA - a nightmare for those who have sucked the blood of the suffering for so long - a dream come true for the rest of us. But they will delay and prolong our suffering as long as they can profit from it.

How ironic that he can profit from WPI's research, gain money from his website to pay for the treatments their research has revealed to us, and continue to undermine the process of getting sufficient research and funding for those patients who continue to support him by frequenting his website.

Anonymous said...

Some of us with ME/CFS connected the dots long ago when it comes to Cort Johnson. He was then, and still is, chipping away at WPI and Dr Mikovits every chance he gets. Whenever his lies and disinformation are pointed out, he changes them just a little and calls it good. He is obviously in it for money and who knows what else - fame? He certainly doesn't mind delaying progress, and thus harming millions of people with this disease. He and his cronies at CAA have added at least a year to the waiting and suffering of ME/CFS patients. He said a year ago he didn't think he had XMRV - reminiscent of Reeves at CDC saying they wouldn't find it, before even looking for it. So his statement now that he does test positive for it is not particularly credible. It may just be another in a long line of ploys to insinuate himself into the minds of those who really do have a retrovirus in their bodies.

He still has a headline up on his blog that accuses Dr. Mikovits of "spilling the beans" on the Lo/Alter paper. In fact, the paper had been known worldwide for weeks before she spoke of it; Alter's slides had been posted on the web. When this was pointed out to Johnson, who of course already knew this, he simply changed his earlier, nastier headline that had said she "broke the embargo" on the paper - part of his campaign to paint her as an unprofessional renegade unworthy of repect or funding. Most of his other attacks on Dr Mikovits and WPI have been subtler. They seem to be testing just where the line is, in what he can get away with in undermining their research efforts while still posing as pro-patient.

If he has actually tested positive, he can now do the ARV treatments that are working for those who have the money to buy the AZT, Viread and Isentress that have restored health to Dr Jamie Deckoff-Jones and her daughter Ali, Dr Michael Snyderman, and the Ms "X" mentioned in the blog Hope For FM and CFIDS. And by undermining valid research that the establishment claims it needs before the clinical trials can be done, he lengthens the time that he can continue to make money off his website, preying on those who don't have the support they need right now to try the treatments that are working for other XMRV+ patients.

If MuLVs are shown to be the cause of ME/CFS, (the successful treatment by ARV drugs certainly points to that probability) there will soon be no need for the likes of Cort Johnson and the CAA - a nightmare for those who have sucked the blood of the suffering for so long - a dream come true for the rest of us. But they will delay and prolong our suffering as long as they can profit from it.

How ironic that he can profit from WPI's research, gain money from his website to pay for the treatments their research has revealed to us, and continue to undermine the process of getting sufficient research and funding for those patients who continue to support him by frequenting his website.

Anonymous said...

Some of us with ME/CFS connected the dots long ago when it comes to Cort Johnson. He was then, and still is, chipping away at WPI and Dr Mikovits every chance he gets. Whenever his lies and disinformation are pointed out, he changes them just a little and calls it good. He is obviously in it for money and who knows what else - fame? He certainly doesn't mind delaying progress, and thus harming millions of people with this disease. He and his cronies at CAA have added at least a year to the waiting and suffering of ME/CFS patients. He said a year ago he didn't think he had XMRV - reminiscent of Reeves at CDC saying they wouldn't find it, before even looking for it. So his statement now that he does test positive for it is not particularly credible. It may just be another in a long line of ploys to insinuate himself into the minds of those who really do have a retrovirus in their bodies.

He still has a headline up on his blog that accuses Dr. Mikovits of "spilling the beans" on the Lo/Alter paper. In fact, the paper had been known worldwide for weeks before she spoke of it; Alter's slides had been posted on the web. When this was pointed out to Johnson, who of course already knew this, he simply changed his earlier, nastier headline that had said she "broke the embargo" on the paper - part of his campaign to paint her as an unprofessional renegade unworthy of repect or funding. Most of his other attacks on Dr Mikovits and WPI have been subtler. They seem to be testing just where the line is, in what he can get away with in undermining their research efforts while still posing as pro-patient.

If he has actually tested positive, he can now do the ARV treatments that are working for those who have the money to buy the AZT, Viread and Isentress that have restored health to Dr Jamie Deckoff-Jones and her daughter Ali, Dr Michael Snyderman, and the Ms "X" mentioned in the blog Hope For FM and CFIDS. And by undermining valid research that the establishment claims it needs before the clinical trials can be done, he lengthens the time that he can continue to make money off his website, preying on those who don't have the support they need right now to try the treatments that are working for other XMRV+ patients.

If MuLVs are shown to be the cause of ME/CFS, (the successful treatment by ARV drugs certainly points to that probability) there will soon be no need for the likes of Cort Johnson and the CAA - a nightmare for those who have sucked the blood of the suffering for so long - a dream come true for the rest of us. But they will delay and prolong our suffering as long as they can profit from it.

How ironic that he can profit from WPI's research, gain money from his website to pay for the treatments their research has revealed to us, and continue to undermine the process of getting sufficient research and funding for those patients who continue to support him by frequenting his website.

Anonymous said...

Discerning patients with ME/CFS connected the dots and realized long ago that Cort Johnson wishes to profit from our suffering while delaying as long as possible the solution to it.

His not very subtle campaign against WPI and Dr. Mikovits became very clear, at least a year ago. Like his cronies at CAA, he continues to pose as pro-patient while chipping away at WPI and Dr. M. He also continues to support those who would keep us sick until we die, with editorials like the one he wrote saying the CDC "researchers" were just mistaken and really believe they are right, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. It apparently does not occur to him to question why virologists working in a department labeled "Infectious and Zoonotic Diseases" would come up with a "research" paper "proving" that 30% of CFS patients have "personality disorders" and then come to the conclusion that CFS is caused by personality disorders(!) after finding their research subjects by randomly dialing the telephone!

In addition to the continued muddying of the waters with the "contamination" argument, which as this post points out, has been completely refuted time and time again, Johnson also still has an old headline on his blog that accuses Dr. Mikovits of "spilling the beans" regarding the Lo/Alter paper. In fact, that paper was known worldwide, had been outed by Europeans, had had Alter's slides published on the web and his published statement that the slides were valid. Johnson knew all of this before he slandered Dr. Mikovits, but after it was objected to on his blog, he simply changed the charge from "she broke the embargo" to she "spilled the beans". This was a blatant attempt to paint her and WPI as unprofessional renagades who were undeserving of respect or research funding. He continues this campaign to this day.

It's incredibly hypocritical that he now claims to have tested positive for XMRV - that may be just another ploy to insinuate himself into the minds and wallets of ME/CFS sufferers. When the research came out last year, he stated he didn't think he had XMRV - just as Reeves at CDC said he didn't think he'd find it - before even looking for it. Closed minds think alike?

If, in fact, he is XMRV+ then he can now use the research he tries to undermine to seek the ARV treatments (AZT, Viread & Isentress)
that have been so successful for Dr. Jamie Deckoff-Jones and her daughter Ali, Dr. Michael Snyderman and the Ms. "X" mentioned on the blog Hope For FM and CFIDS by Dr Timothy Luckett.

How ironic that he can use the money he makes from his website to pay for the treatments ($1500/mo) made possible by Dr Mikovits' (and Dr Ila Singh's) research while continuing to smear her and WPI and undermine progress in the research that would help the rest of us who have no economic support because of the decades long campaign to demonize and disappear everyone who has researched the biomedical causes of ME/CFS.

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