AN INTERVIEW WITH MARTIN J. WALKER by Louise Mclean
"Skewed came out at the end of October 2003 and it’s a book about the way that a small group of psychiatrists have tried to control and redefine the illness of ME.” Now the reason why I mention this book again is because it is not only that good, it is also because of some silliness that happened in Drowning Street recently. So please read on.
“What this particular group of psychiatrists have done is to erase ME and subsume it into a whole category of illnesses which they have termed Chronic Fatigue. What was once a very specific illness, with very specific signs and aetiology, has now been incorporated into a massive group of symptoms with one set of treatments being given to all sufferers.
A moratorium has been called on diagnostic testing so that there is going to be no further research, in Britain anyway, into what actually caused ME or what ME is. One of the treatments now prescribed for CFS is graded exercise therapy to get people fit and out of their fatigue.
Especially if you are one of the 25% immobilised sufferers, in considerable pain, why would you want to get involved in graded exercise? Some psychiatrists say that fatigue is all in the mind and the patient has got to be able to conquer it. They prescribe GET along with ‘cognitive behaviour therapy’. The idea is to get rid of false illness beliefs.
SKEWED deals with ME, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity and Gulf War Syndrome. It uses them all as examples of how the psychiatric argument is used to cloak any research into organic aetiology. The last thing the chemical companies in Britain or America want to do is admit such a thing as chemical illness because it means a massive liability.”
Now since the politicians have decided to ignore the WHO it has become even more important to read the book and GET a look inside the minds of psychiatrists who are using their brains not as a doctor should do nor as they swore when saying the magic words of the Hippocratic oath…. But since, as we know, that has not only been replaced by the HIPPOCRITIC OATH but also by their wish to GET rich over the backs of their patients.
A very good idea if you are a doctor; and if you don’t believe me, than have a look at the recent article by MARGARET WILLIAMS after the British Government said no to the WHO classification of ME as advised by their friends from the CBT MAGIC KINGDOM who have never seen a person with ME in their life. Well let me correct myself, they saw one once and they threw him in the pool to drown him.
Or was it to drown his false illness beliefs, anyway, they had to jump in and rescue him. Did they learn anything from it???
Yes, how to tell porkies and GET rich and be mean in between. Now the interesting thing is of you read MARGARET’S article that more and more psychologists are starting to realise that this CBT business for ME is all a whole lot of hot air ballooning or balony. I mean sure, you can decork a bottle of wine with the tongue of a well trained CBT fanatic but that is about it. I know the devil is in the details but even the devil is scared of professor CBT and his illustrious gang of porkpie telling delusionists.
From that point of view the LOST VOICES PROJECT by InvestinME is a fantastic project and when it is finished it should be presented to the politicians before one of their own children or loved ones GET ME, it should be presented to the GOBSART fellows and maybe also to all the CBT professor although I realise that that will be calcified as severe harassment and whoever presents it to them is at great risk of being locked up in GETanomo so not a great prosprectus.
Now before I put the link to MARGARET’s article here, let me just put a few quotes from it in my BLOG and amazingly just see that quite a few psychologists have spoken out a long time before the GOBSART Academy came out of the closet with their useless degradation of ME.
There have been a number of articles about the effectiveness of CBT in the last 1-2 years or so and they are staggering and are basically saying what we have been telling the docs etc for years, but as we all know, when we got ME, we not only lost our health and in many cases our independence but we also lost our minds.
Well at least according to delusional psycho ramblers who keep plugging the same old gooblediegoek and nonsense on a daily base. And the reason for that is simple, if they don’t people might start to think again and say hey wait a minute, these people were fit and well all their life, were sporty, didn’t see their GP’s unless it was absolutely necessary and to say now that they have suddenly become malingerers, heart sink patients, professional hypochondriacs and hysterics is to put it mildly odd.
So they have to keep on telling the same porkies every day, it is that simple. You see, otherwise a normal human being, let alone a reasonable doc would not believe delusional psychiatrists……but this way their brains are in sleep mode as that is what happens if you get over flown and drowned by lectures and articles and other CBT nonsense.
Now I have even heard a rumour that NASA is using CBT, yes really. Something to do with some sort of Computer Based Training on a flight simulator and even if you want to drive your motorbike on many circuits you have to follow a course of CBT, Compulsory Basic Training that is, so you know when to brake, when to turn left and when to turn right and so. A bit like getting the basics right before you start to do something. So Professor CBT please take note ....
And yes I have asked these motorbike blokes if they could start to instruct the GOBSART fellows and the CBT fanatics the same thing about the real horrible Me but they were afraid that their bikes would start to rust after being talked to by professor CBT and his mates….
Now, I was even silly to type CBT into Google and look what happened, the NACBT, that is the National Association of CBT people, appeared and what did they say about CBT in the first sentence or so on their website, absolutely amazing, just have a read:
“Cognitive-behavioral therapy does not exist as a distinct therapeutic technique.”
So it doesn’t even exist, so more porkies from the delusionists….. and I bet no one has told the politicians yet…..
Now here is Margaret’s article, or I should say a few quotes from “Deliberate Deceit or Inexcusable Ignorance?”
4th March 2008:The UK Government’s response of 27th February 2008 to a petition containing 8,481 signatures asking that myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) be accepted in the UK in the same category as in the World Health Organisation’s International Classification of Diseases was predictable and odd really if you know that in 1988 they passed a private members Bill acknowledging the WHO classification…...
The recent GIBSON ENQUIRY said this about it:"In Britain, there has been a clear historical bias towards research into the psychosocial explanations of CFS/ME. This is despite Parliament recognising ME as a physical illness in a Private Members Bill, the ME Sufferers Bill, in 1988.”
It also said that “The WHO (World Health Organisation) in Geneva holds an internationally recognised classification that ME is a neurological disease."
But as usual the GOBSART mentality and Profesor CBT and his interests were more inportant than patients with a debilitating illness, so nothing new under the sun you would think, well, I would say, just read on because …
“Clinical Psychology Forum 162”, June 2006 (i.e. over a year before the publication of its Guideline), in which internationally renowned psychologists exposed the reality that psychological therapies do not actually work and may in fact harm patients who submit to them.
“Reflections on the practice of clinical psychology” by Bob Diamond (pp 3- 8):
“Clinical psychology is part of mental health services that, on occasions, contribute more to people’s distress than provide possible benefits. There are plenty of testaments to suggest that the iatrogenic effect of mental health services contribute to the ongoing damage to people’s lives.
There’s plenty of evidence showing positive outcomes to psychotherapy to be much more modest than our profession has so far acknowledged. We should ensure that our work is based in reality and not premised on prevailing popular, even fashionable, concepts. Whilst specific psychological approaches may continue to offer some help to some people, some of the time, such claims should be more modestly made”.
“Implications for practice” by David Smail (pp 17 – 20):“Evidence for the effectiveness of psychological therapies is far weaker than can be considered acceptable. Largely to avoid these difficulties, clinical psychology has tended to opt for dogma rather than truth.”
“The trouble with psychotherapy” by Paul Maloney (pp 29 – 33):“The supposedly sound evidence base for the effectiveness of the psychological therapies may be far more questionable than is widely supposed. The enduring reality is that the psychotherapy outcome literature offers precious little support for any of the above notions. This is an observation that seems to have been consistently ignored.”
There is also the recent Dutch report of February 2008 by Drs MP Koolhaas, H de Boorder and Professor Elke van Hoof which comes to unambiguous conclusions about CBT…..:
“A striking outcome is that the number of those respondents who were in paid employment or who were studying while taking part in CBT was adversely affected. The negative outcome in paid employment was statistically significant.”
“Overall, CBT for ME/CFS does not improve patients’ well-being: More patients report deterioration of their condition rather than improvement.”
“Our conclusion is that the claims in scientific publications about the effectiveness of this therapy, based on trials in strictly controlled settings within universities, has been overstated and are therefore misleading”. (conclusion by Professor Van Hoof et al).
And to answer Margaret’s question, Deliberate Deceit or Inexcusable Ignorance?
It is pretty obvious what the answer is wouldn’t you say, but be careful professor CBT and his blue vans are always around the corner trying to section more PWME and submit them to torture treatment….
Because destroying one more life of someone with ME is not important to delusional psychiatrists who stand to loose all their primary and secondary gains if the world start to realise what ME really is, very sad but true…
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